Comments on: Big Boned Fat http://dearscience.org/2007/08/21/big-boned-fat/ Seattle's Only Scientist Sun, 15 Jan 2012 08:20:53 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: musclemaximize.com http://dearscience.org/2007/08/21/big-boned-fat/comment-page-1/#comment-3888 musclemaximize.com Sat, 13 Aug 2011 17:08:30 +0000 http://dearscience.org/2007/08/21/big-boned-fat/#comment-3888 hello there and thank you for your info – I’ve certainly picked up something new from proper here. I did however expertise some technical points using this web site, as I experienced to reload the web site lots of occasions prior to I may get it to load correctly. I have been wondering in case your web host is OK? Not that I am complaining, but sluggish loading cases instances will very frequently affect your placement in google and can harm your quality rating if ads and ***********|advertising|advertising|advertising and *********** with Adwords. Anyway I’m including this RSS to my email and can glance out for much more of your respective intriguing content. Ensure that you update this again very soon.. hello there and thank you for your info – I’ve certainly picked up something new from proper here. I did however expertise some technical points using this web site, as I experienced to reload the web site lots of occasions prior to I may get it to load correctly. I have been wondering in case your web host is OK? Not that I am complaining, but sluggish loading cases instances will very frequently affect your placement in google and can harm your quality rating if ads and ***********|advertising|advertising|advertising and *********** with Adwords. Anyway I’m including this RSS to my email and can glance out for much more of your respective intriguing content. Ensure that you update this again very soon..

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]]> By: more http://dearscience.org/2007/08/21/big-boned-fat/comment-page-1/#comment-63 more Thu, 31 Jan 2008 03:05:20 +0000 http://dearscience.org/2007/08/21/big-boned-fat/#comment-63 <strong>hi...</strong> super!... hi…

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]]> By: Jonathan http://dearscience.org/2007/08/21/big-boned-fat/comment-page-1/#comment-10 Jonathan Thu, 23 Aug 2007 00:53:12 +0000 http://dearscience.org/2007/08/21/big-boned-fat/#comment-10 It's a legal and ethical question, right? From a legal POV, yes I am well within <a href="http://www.copyright.gov/fls/fl102.html" rel="nofollow">fair use</A>. Specifically: 1. This is clearly a non-profit educational use of the material. 2. Only a tiny portion of the figures in the paper -- this is a Cell paper after all, dense enough to prevent light from escaping -- is shown here. 3. If you were going to pay to read the article, what I posted isn't enough to dissuade you from doing so. Posting the full PDF would be clearly out of bounds; this is quite mild in comparison. From an ethical point of view, I've clearly cited the source of these figures, and I've not claimed credit for the work; this isn't plagiarism. From a utilitarian point-of-view, I've provided publicity for the authors, the study, the field of research, the results and the Journal itself. Whew. Enough defensive posturing. My question to you: Isn't it ethically repugnant to commercially copyright -- and prevent the public from accessing for decades -- the results of publicly funded research? It’s a legal and ethical question, right?

From a legal POV, yes I am well within fair use.
Specifically:
1. This is clearly a non-profit educational use of the material.

2. Only a tiny portion of the figures in the paper — this is a Cell paper after all, dense enough to prevent light from escaping — is shown here.

3. If you were going to pay to read the article, what I posted isn’t enough to dissuade you from doing so.

Posting the full PDF would be clearly out of bounds; this is quite mild in comparison.

From an ethical point of view, I’ve clearly cited the source of these figures, and I’ve not claimed credit for the work; this isn’t plagiarism. From a utilitarian point-of-view, I’ve provided publicity for the authors, the study, the field of research, the results and the Journal itself.

Whew. Enough defensive posturing.

My question to you: Isn’t it ethically repugnant to commercially copyright — and prevent the public from accessing for decades — the results of publicly funded research?

]]> By: Thomas Robey http://dearscience.org/2007/08/21/big-boned-fat/comment-page-1/#comment-9 Thomas Robey Thu, 23 Aug 2007 00:29:30 +0000 http://dearscience.org/2007/08/21/big-boned-fat/#comment-9 Dear Science, Are you even partially concerned about your use of Cell's figures? I know you will point out the fair use clause related to publishing in general, but you present a lot of copyrighted material here! Dear Science,

Are you even partially concerned about your use of Cell’s figures? I know you will point out the fair use clause related to publishing in general, but you present a lot of copyrighted material here!

]]> By: Jonathan Golob http://dearscience.org/2007/08/21/big-boned-fat/comment-page-1/#comment-8 Jonathan Golob Wed, 22 Aug 2007 18:42:14 +0000 http://dearscience.org/2007/08/21/big-boned-fat/#comment-8 I should go and add the citations. Laziness took hold before I converted all the Endnote citations to hyperlinks. Still, you're right. Thank-you for reading. Here is a <a HREF="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed&Cmd=ShowDetailView&TermToSearch=17498507&ordinalpos=5&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum" rel="nofollow">decent review covering the endocrine regulation of energy balence</A>. For the claim that weight is genetically regulated, there are many many studies. Among the most recent is one <a HREF="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed&Cmd=ShowDetailView&TermToSearch=17384662&ordinalpos=11&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum" rel="nofollow">following monozygotic and dizygotic twins to age 18</A>. The <a HREF="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed&Cmd=ShowDetailView&TermToSearch= 16242735&ordinalpos=11&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum" rel="nofollow">increase in obesity</A> is from WHO and CDC stats. Pretty shocking, eh? For the strict regulation of how much we eat is mostly from that <a HREF="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed&Cmd=ShowDetailView&TermToSearch=17498507&ordinalpos=5&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum" rel="nofollow">review</A>, and some seminars I've attended at the UW. The resetting of the endocrine system to maintain a higher weight in Obese individuals was also mostly from seminars. For the fat-and-fit notion, there are also several studies. One recently demonstated that obese individuals who are active <a HREF="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed&Cmd=ShowDetailView&TermToSearch=17646606&ordinalpos=2&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum" rel="nofollow">have less visceral fat</A>--the kind of fat that causes the most grief. Hope this helps. I should go and add the citations. Laziness took hold before I converted all the Endnote citations to hyperlinks. Still, you’re right.

Thank-you for reading.

Here is a decent review covering the endocrine regulation of energy balence.

For the claim that weight is genetically regulated, there are many many studies. Among the most recent is one following monozygotic and dizygotic twins to age 18.

The increase in obesity is from WHO and CDC stats. Pretty shocking, eh?

For the strict regulation of how much we eat is mostly from that review, and some seminars I’ve attended at the UW.

The resetting of the endocrine system to maintain a higher weight in Obese individuals was also mostly from seminars.

For the fat-and-fit notion, there are also several studies. One recently demonstated that obese individuals who are active have less visceral fat–the kind of fat that causes the most grief.

Hope this helps.

]]> By: josh http://dearscience.org/2007/08/21/big-boned-fat/comment-page-1/#comment-7 josh Wed, 22 Aug 2007 18:11:40 +0000 http://dearscience.org/2007/08/21/big-boned-fat/#comment-7 Dear Science, Do you have any citations for the claims made in the first three paragraphs of your post? I'm not necessarily disputing them, just curious about the source. all best, . j Dear Science,

Do you have any citations for the claims made in the first three paragraphs of your post? I’m not necessarily disputing them, just curious about the source.

all best,

. j

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